Grand Tourney

[kvalandur]

In a thread on Arenas on the Paizo boards we have been kicking an idea around of having a tourney. A large contest of bouts between individuals and teams. Also having a big bazaar outside of the tourney where vendors could bring their wares, buy, sell and make trade contacts. We plan on having betting for the matches which will provide prize money for the winners. I wanted to let everyone know so they can add their thoughts to the thread.

Nothing is set in stone at this point, maybe we can get some GM help but even if its just us players organizing the event I think it would be fun.

Here's where the topic starts..

paizo.com/threads/rzs2pest?The-Arena#3

I'm steering away from Bluddwolf's idea of having it near a neutral settlement. I think it should be in an unpopulated area.

[Gintigael Gemweaver]

I would like to see multiple tournaments held by different settlements creating traveling competitors, and creating better more varying trade. In Abadius (January) its in Pax Aeterna, in Pharast (march) its in Shadow Haven, in Kuthona (December) its in our settlement...
If there were multiple tournaments like I propose here I would create my secondary character as a tournament Knight.

[kvalandur]

I think it would be great for us as a guild to bring crafted items to sell, and while there we could look into making trade contacts with other settlements. Maybe even getting some crafting contracts for items we can make that other settlements might not have access to. Not counting that I want to be in the tourney too

[kvalandur]

Jan 27, 2013 15:41:05 GMT -6 Gintigael Gemweaver said:

I would like to see multiple tournaments held by different settlements creating traveling competitors, and creating better more varying trade. In Abadius (January) its in Pax Aeterna, in Pharast (march) its in Shadow Haven, in Kuthona (December) its in our settlement...
If there were multiple tournaments like I propose here I would create my secondary character as a tournament Knight.

Actually that's kind of where I wanted to take the tourney idea at first. Have regional tourneys and have them lead up to a huge grand tourney. I like the idea of having settlements "host" the regional tournaments. It would be cool if we could incorporate PF lore into when we hold the tournaments, making them fall on holidays celebrated within the game world according to lore. (Does that make sense? Lol)

[Gintigael Gemweaver]

Then the Grand Tourney should be in Fort Inevitable or Thornkeep. A neutral area, but still a city.

[Hroderich Gottfrei]

I would be interested in participating as Hroderich. With this being all voluntary, it doesn't violate non-aggression. And it's a way to train/keep current and gauge everyone else. Plus, it fits my character's attitude.

[hark]

I actually see this as a chance to establish good relations with everyone else and establish a reputation as a place that can serve as a neutral ground.

We could announce that we are choosing to not participate in the tournament and volunteer our city to serve as a Neutral Ground for the tournament to take place in.

Sure we would loose all of the glory of possibly winning the tournament, but a reputation as a fair and safe neutral ground, plus all of the income from so many people being in our city would be far more valuable.

[wyldethorne]

I love the idea, especially as a rotating regional series of tournaments with a Grand Tournament once a year. The mock battles alone would be worth it, allowing everyone to practice formation combat. The Kingdom of Aeternum is very interested in participating, and offers to work with you in establishing such a great in-game event.

[Gintigael Gemweaver]

I picture a Knight's Tale format... with people in the stands singing We Will Rock You! haha

[Erian El'ranelen]

I see a multitude of benefits to this--economy, diplomacy, prestige, opportunities to share training/expertise. We should consider ths hosting options carefully, I think. I absolutely want to be a favorable meeting place for others, as it furthers the Mediation aspects of Gold. However, if we are seen as making some sort of veiled power/advantage grab it can backfire. Some of the less-Good orgnaizations might also question our selection given our open stance against Evil. There might also be advantages to having our folks in other communities during such an event. Round-robin hosting at numerous sites throughout the year, with the Grand Tourney location determined by some fair means would definitely be an exciting means of engaging players long-term.

Ultimately success for such a venture would depend on support from organizations able to sustain the concept. To that end, I'm very glad to see Aeternum's interest in this endeavor.

And Knight's Tale is one of my favorite movies ever...

[wyldethorne]

I agree, a tournament setting at rotating settlements would offer an outstanding venues for displaying goods for every attendant organization which could lead to trade pacts and other diplomatic efforts. Individual renown for the combatants in the Melee, and training for units will be invaluable for all the participants, as well as the countless opportunities for RP.

[hark]

Jan 28, 2013 14:52:16 GMT -6 Erian El'ranelen said:

Some of the less-Good orgnaizations might also question our selection given our open stance against Evil.

Maybe it's just a difference of perception, but I've kind of seen us valuing peace above all else. Thus while we might openly not approve of Evil, given the chance to make peace between an Evil group and a Good group we should very much strive to make peace happen.

A reputation as a safe neutral ground would greatly help facilitate peace negotiations. Being a valued neutral ground could also result in others jumping to our aid if we are attacked even if they don't normally agree with us because a safe neutral ground is that valuable.

I also have no problem with Evil people visiting all they want so long as they obey our rules while they are in our territory.

[Erian El'ranelen]

I agree in practice, and so that's why I've actively pursued dialogue with all organizations regardless of alignment. However, with our own org labelled Neutral Good there are some that will automatically mistrust us in relation to Evil. I definitely want our settlements to be seen as peace-oriented areas open to all, it'll just take time to gain trust for such a reputation. If we step out right now and offer ourselves up as neutral ground, there's no basis for others to trust that statement.

[hark]

Gotta start somewhere. They may mistrust us, but following through with the promise to serve as a safe neutral ground would go a very very long way.

[Erian El'ranelen]

Considering what just happened with TEO, I'm...hesitant. And truly, if we want to demonstrate a truly neutral ground approach, what is our argument for being Neutral Good vs. True Neutral? Now, I don't want to derail the Tourney discussions with a digression into our alignment approach, just get folks to thinking on how we approach this. We would, after all, have ulterior motives and benefits to hosting the event (financial, good will, etc.).